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Robert Greene28 August 2025

Robert Greene: How to use the 48 Laws of Power to get what you want in business

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Hot Take· 1

Hot Take1:13:30

Ideas Are the Most Powerful Thing in the World

Greene argues an immaterial idea outweighs all material wealth. Machiavelli was a failed mid-level diplomat who made no money from The Prince, yet its influence over 600 years is immeasurable — arguably second only to the Bible. Real power is the power of thinking; a business or an iPod starts as an idea in someone's head and becomes reality.

  • Machiavelli never profited from or realized power through The Prince.
  • Its ~600-year influence is 'off the charts.'
  • Ideas outweigh money and material things.
  • Steve Jobs's iPod, like any business, began as an idea in a brain.

Ideas are the most powerful thing in this world... something completely immaterial, an idea, is what is most powerful.

Robert Greene · 1:14:00
#ideas#influence#machiavelli#philosophy

Explainer· 1

Explainer02:30

Why Greene Reads ~300 Books Per Book

Greene consumes roughly 300 books to write one, deeply rereading the ~1 in 5 that are excellent and skimming the bad ones. His writing process mirrors his focus philosophy: the first attempt is superficial and bad, but by going deep, crossing out, and re-entering the material ~10 times, brilliant ideas surface. He half-jokes his stroke came from reading too much.

  • About 300 books consumed per book he writes.
  • Only ~1 in 5 books are excellent enough to reread deeply.
  • First drafts are deliberately bad; depth comes from ~10 passes.
  • The brain functions by boring deep into one subject, not spreading thin.

By the 10th time I go into it, something interesting is happening. So when you focus deeply on something, ideas will come to you.

Robert Greene · 02:30
#writing#deep-work#research#mastery

Story· 5

Story50:30

How 50 Cent Turned a Leaked Song Into Theater

When a 50 Cent single leaked and wrecked the marketing rollout, his team panicked and wanted to sue. 50 stayed calm as Buddha and instead invented a story: he staged and filmed a fake rage — smashing a TV, throwing a phone, 'heads will roll' — so the internet talked about his anger instead of the leak. Greene calls it the 48 Laws of Power in action.

  • A leaked single ruined a planned marketing rollout.
  • The team wanted to fight it with lawsuits; 50 stayed calm.
  • He manufactured a theatrical 'rage' story and filmed it staged.
  • The internet is about attention and stories — so he created his own.

Instead of 50 reacting and getting all upset which made him look weak, he turned it around and made it about him and his anger.

Robert Greene · 52:00
#50-cent#attention#crisis#narrative
Story57:00

The Venice Moment That Became the 48 Laws of Power

Greene didn't find his life's task until ~38. In July 1995, walking in Venice with a Dutch book packager who asked if he had a book idea, he improvised what became the 48 Laws of Power — all his bad bosses and Hollywood politics 'came vomiting out.' Broke and depressed, he borrowed money from his parents to write the treatment.

  • Greene spent 16-18 'years in the wilderness' developing skills before his break.
  • A single question in Venice in July 1995 crystallized the book.
  • He poured every bad job and bad boss into the idea.
  • It was literally 'get rich or die trying' — he borrowed money to write the treatment.

It was literally get rich or die trying at that moment.

Robert Greene · 59:00
#origin-story#persistence#luck#writing
Story43:30

The NBA Coach Who Planned a Championship

Greene points to Mark Daigneault, coach of the champion Oklahoma City Thunder, as a masterclass in power without Machiavellian scheming. Great leadership meant unifying 12-15 huge egos into one team, and — rare in a distracted world — holding a patient two-to-three-year plan and direction all the way to a title.

  • Daigneault built from the G-League up and was patient through bad early years.
  • The hardest leadership job: unifying 12-15 star egos into one team.
  • He had a multi-year plan and direction, not just reactions.
  • A plan gives a sense of control without meaning inflexibility.

It's powerful when you have a plan that goes two years, three years down the road. It gives you a sense of control.

Robert Greene · 44:30
#leadership#planning#sports#power
Story59:30

The 48 Laws of Power Keeps Accelerating

Published around 1998-2000, the 48 Laws of Power is selling faster than ever — 2024 was its best year, and it's near 10 million copies in the US alone. Greene notes it's a strange-looking book that could easily have bombed; much of its success he credits to luck plus the sheer effort he poured into making it timeless.

  • 2024 was the book's best sales year ever, decades after release.
  • Nearing 10 million US copies sold.
  • Michael Jackson's annotated copy sold for $300,000 after his death.
  • Rumored to be 'banned in prisons,' which only fueled its mystique.

I'd say 2024 was best year we've ever had. It was insane. It's accelerated.

Robert Greene · 1:00:00
#48-laws#books#longevity
Story41:00

The Charisma-Without-Self-Control Cautionary Tale

Greene warns you need time to judge whether someone is truly a power player. He met American Apparel founder Dov Charney early on — 'charisma in a ball,' insane confidence — joined his board, and watched over years as flaws surfaced: no self-control and inflexibility led to bad decisions and the company's end.

  • You can't judge a person's power in the present moment — time reveals it.
  • Charney had extraordinary early charisma and confidence.
  • He lacked self-control and flexibility.
  • Those flaws eventually unwound the empire he built.

He seems confident but in the end he was making some really bad decisions because he wasn't flexible.

Robert Greene · 42:00
#charisma#self-control#leadership#judgment

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway21:30

Warren Buffett's Inner Scorecard

Sam relays Buffett's idea that most people live by an outer scorecard (what others think) while Buffett attributes his success to a strong inner scorecard. The thought experiment: would you rather be the best at something but everyone thinks you're the worst, or vice versa? Buffett listens to himself first and marks his choices against his own standard.

  • Outer scorecard = caring what others think; inner scorecard = your own standard.
  • Buffett credits much of his success to a strong inner scorecard.
  • He isn't immune to outside opinion but listens to himself first.
  • It echoes Greene's 'connect to yourself' theme.

He attributes most of his success to the fact that he has a very strong inner scorecard.

Sam Parr · 22:00
#buffett#self-trust#mindset
Takeaway1:17:30

Fulfillment Over Happiness

Writing his new book after a stroke, unable to type or hike, Greene distinguishes happiness (which fluctuates hour to hour) from fulfillment (which stays). On the micro level he has frustration and tedium; pulling back over months and years, his sense of accomplishment is 'off the charts' precisely because of what he had to overcome.

  • Happiness comes and goes hour to hour.
  • Fulfillment stays with you over months and years.
  • Greene handwrites and dictates his book post-stroke, one hand at a time.
  • The difficulty overcome is what makes the accomplishment meaningful.

Happiness comes and goes, but a sense of fulfillment just sort of stays with you for a long time.

Robert Greene · 1:19:30
#fulfillment#resilience#meaning