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Shaan's Masterclass19 June 2023

Shaan's Masterclass: How To Sell A Business For Millions

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Explainer· 2

Explainer00:00

Why almost nobody is good at selling a company

Shaan frames this as his second masterclass, after one on raising money and building a killer pitch deck, which covered the start of the entrepreneurial journey. This one covers the end. He argues the skill is uniquely under-taught: management and sales have endless books plus daily practice, while selling a company has very little good content and almost no reps, since you might do it once every four to ten years. Since nobody gets good at anything without practice, founders enter the biggest transaction of their lives cold. He is openly repurposing a Hustle Con presentation from three or four years earlier that he pulled off Google Drive and did not even review first.

  • First masterclass was raising money and pitch decks; this one is the exit
  • Management and revenue skills come with books plus daily reps
  • Selling a company offers very few reps: once every four to ten years
  • The deck is a recycled Hustle Con 2019 talk, improvised live
  • Only edit was swapping the Hustle Con banner for a new logo

I'm repurposing a presentation I gave uh 3 4 years ago at Hustle Con.

Shaan Puri · 00:30

You might sell a company once every 4 years, 10 years.

Shaan Puri · 01:00
#exits#m&a#masterclass
Explainer09:00

The four buckets of potential buyers

Before outreach, Shaan sorts every candidate acquirer into four buckets. High-growth companies buy to accelerate their own growth. Dying dinosaurs are incumbents that need fresh blood, fresh tech, fresh energy or fresh cash flow. Adjacent alligators, named after Legends of the Hidden Temple, are the peers or competitors sitting next to you that you might merge with. Talent farms are the Googles who do not care about your company or your market and simply want the engineers. The point of bucketing is that each type buys for a different reason, so the pitch and the leverage differ by bucket. No matter who you are, he notes, you become a salesman at this stage.

  • High-growth buyers acquire to accelerate growth
  • Dying dinosaurs need fresh tech, energy or cash flow
  • Adjacent alligators are peers or competitors you could merge with
  • Talent farms want engineers, not your market
  • Bucketing dictates the pitch and the leverage you hold

So I would say there's four potential buyers.

Shaan Puri · 09:00

And the last one is talent farms.

Shaan Puri · 09:30
#buyers#m&a#sales process

Story· 2

Story01:30

Two exits, two completely different transactions

Shaan has now sold two companies and the deals had almost nothing in common. The first went to Twitch, which is owned by Amazon, so it was a large corporate acquisition with corp dev, executives and internal memo culture. Milk Road, by contrast, sold to two private buyers he describes as two dudes who were apparently wealthy from previous businesses, an entirely different kind of transaction. When he originally built the presentation he had only sold Bebo, so he added the Milk Road lessons just before recording to test whether he had learned anything the second time around.

  • First exit: sold to Twitch, owned by Amazon
  • Second exit: Milk Road sold to two private wealthy individuals
  • Corporate and private-buyer processes are structurally different
  • Original deck predates Milk Road; those lessons were bolted on live
  • The rest of the presentation was left untouched as a test of consistency

Um I've sold two companies now.

Shaan Puri · 01:30

And then Milk Road, we sold to two private buyers, just like you know, two dudes who were apparently wealthy from their previous businesses

Shaan Puri · 02:00
#exits#milk road#twitch
Story16:00

The beer that reframed the Twitch pitch

With a CEO meeting booked the next day through corp dev, Shaan did not know how to frame what his company did. He remembered meeting a Twitch executive on a boat in Australia, hit him up, and got a beer with him that same day. Over the beer he asked what the CEO was like, then asked what the company's top three priorities were, and crucially which of those was stuck and needed a solution rather than already having one everybody loved. The exec said they were bullish on an initiative but lacked the right team and the tech, and the person leading it was not strong technically. The next day Shaan walked in and pitched himself as exactly that solution: the leader, the team and the already-built tech.

  • Corp dev produced a CEO meeting the following day
  • Shaan sourced an insider he had met on a boat in Australia
  • He asked for the top three priorities, then which one was stuck
  • The gap was team and tech on an initiative with full buy-in
  • He repackaged his story as the solution rather than a feature list

But I had met a guy on a boat in Australia, of all places, who worked at Twitch.

Shaan Puri · 16:00

I said, okay. I said, which one of those is like stuck? Which one of those needs a solution?

Shaan Puri · 17:00
#twitch#pitching#m&a

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway07:00

Managing your own psychology, and who you tell

Because a sale is mostly conversations inside your own head and with co-founders, Shaan calls managing your own psychology the single most important thing in a sale process. It is what makes you good in negotiation, what gets people across the line, and what lets you keep operating the company daily while selling it. On disclosure he has changed his mind: he historically erred too far toward transparency with the team, and would now tell only his co-founders and say nothing to employees until the deal closes, because people start working differently once they suspect a sale. He recommends building a communication table that sets what each group hears and when: co-founders ASAP with a specific ask, investors that a sale is being explored, employees a we have been approached framing timed to close or near-close.

  • Psychology management is the number one factor in a sale
  • You must operate the business while selling it
  • Shaan now says co-founders only until the deal is done
  • Team transparency changes behaviour and raises anxiety
  • Build an explicit communication table with groups, messages and timings

managing your own psychology during a sales process is the number one most important thing.

Shaan Puri · 07:00

I would only discuss with my co-founders and I would not talk to the team until the deal is done.

Shaan Puri · 08:00
#psychology#communication#m&a
Takeaway24:30

Closing tips: deals fall through, momentum, and celebrating

Shaan closes with the advice he was given: birds fly, fish swim, and deals fall through, so a collapsed deal is completely normal and you cannot get emotionally too high or too low. Second, deal momentum is everything: the speed with which you follow up and supply materials drives the whole process. Third, one choice is no choice, because a single possible buyer means zero leverage and effectively zero buyers. He also insists on celebrating properly, noting that the process is so stressful that the dominant feeling at close is just relief, and you have to let that subside before feeling the joy and pride of having done something genuinely difficult.

  • Deals falling through is normal, not a signal about you
  • Do not swing emotionally high or low during the process
  • Momentum and follow-up speed are everything in deal-making
  • One choice is no choice: a single buyer equals zero leverage
  • Let relief pass and then actually celebrate the achievement

And lastly, celebrate. Make sure you celebrate.

Shaan Puri · 24:30

The second, deal momentum is everything.

Shaan Puri · 25:00
#closing#leverage#mindset

contrarian· 2

contrarian02:30

You are not Instagram, so ignore Instagram's exit advice

Shaan opens every discussion of selling with the first photo ever posted on Instagram, a picture of a foot and a dog, and Kevin Systrom in a power pose with white sneakers. If you ask Systrom how to sell a company, the honest answer from his experience is to build a sensational product and wait for someone to offer you a billion dollars. Shaan's experience was the opposite: a good but early business that he had to actively sell. His point is that Forbes-list founders negotiate from a completely different position of leverage and bargaining power than most people who go to sell, so their advice does not transfer. The realistic starting position is a founder who has tried, pivoted and hustled, and is either stuck, semi-working, or just tired.

  • Systrom's exit advice reduces to build something sensational and wait
  • Shaan had a good, not great, and still early business
  • Forbes-list founders sell from radically different leverage
  • The common entrepreneur state is tired and ready to move on
  • Advice must be matched to your actual bargaining position

My experience was very different. We had built a good, not great business.

Shaan Puri · 03:00

You've tried, you've pivoted, you've hustled, it's not working, or it's kind of working, or it's working, but you're just tired, you're ready to move…

Shaan Puri · 03:30
#leverage#founder advice#exits
contrarian04:00

Most companies are sold, not bought

The advice Shaan heard constantly was that great companies are bought, not sold, which he calls a nice little fortune cookie. He concedes it is probably true for great companies, then flips it: most companies are sold, not bought, and that was his own experience in both exits. He also warns against believing reported acquisition numbers, pointing at a headline from his own deal where the number was simply wrong. Real deal value is a mix of cash up front, signing bonus and stock whose price then moves, so headline figures can be manipulated in several directions. His actual exit was eight figures, not the reported number.

  • Great companies are bought not sold is true only for great companies
  • Shaan's contention: most companies are sold, not bought
  • The headline number on his own acquisition was incorrect
  • Deal value splits across cash, signing bonus and moving stock
  • Reported acquisition prices are easy to manipulate

But most companies are sold not bought.

Shaan Puri · 04:00

This number is incorrect.

Shaan Puri · 04:30
#m&a#deal value#media